A Conversation with Brian Greene
Q: What would you say to people who think they are just not smart
enough to ever fully wrap their minds around the nature of the
universe?
A: For most people, the major hurdle in grasping modern insights
into the nature of the universe is that these developments are usually
phrased using mathematics. But when the impediment of mathematics is
removed and the ideas themselves are rephrased in common language,
they're not that hard to understand. So, I say: give it a try--and most
people do find that they grasp much more than they expected.
Q: Is it a challenge, as a physicist and mathematician to write in a
way that everyone can understand?
A: It is a challenge, but for me its both a useful and exciting one.
I find that translating cutting-edge research into more familiar
language forces me to strip away extraneous details and zero in on the
core ideas. Often, this helps me to organize my own thoughts and has
even suggested research directions. And it's exciting to see ideas that
are close to my heart and those of other researchers in the field reach
a wider audience. The questions we are tackling are universal, and
everyone deserves the right to enjoy the progress we're making.
Q: What made you decide to follow The Elegant Universe and
string theory with an exploration of cosmology?
A: Well, I wouldn't say that The Fabric of the Cosmos is a
book on cosmology. Cosmology certainly plays a big part, but the major
theme is our ever evolving understanding of space and time, and what it
all means for our sense of reality. The Elegant Universe was a
book about the search for a unified theory, in which space and time were
supporting characters. As I was writing it, I almost had to keep space
and time in check, as they so easily could have taken over. In The
Fabric of the Cosmos, I let them have free reign--and space and
time, with little effort, assumed the starring roles.
Q: You make some mind-boggling statements about the nature of time.
Can you elaborate on the difference between how physicists and the rest
of us view time?
A: Well, in day to day life, physicists view time in the same way
that everyone else does. And that makes it all the more surprising when
we examine how time appears in our current theoretical frameworks,
because nowhere in our theories do we see the intuitive notion of time
that we all embrace. Nowhere, for example, can we find the theoretical
underpinnings for our sense that time flows from one second to the next.
Instead, our theories seem to indicate that time doesn't flow--rather,
past, present, and future are all there, always, forever frozen in
place. Moreover, we all sense that time has a direction pointing from
what we call past to what we call future. And much of what we experience
adheres fully to this "arrow of time" (e.g. eggs break but they never
unbreak, we remember the past but not the future, etc.). But as familiar
as this all is, explaining the origin of time's arrow using our
understanding of physics is no small task. And when we look at the
problem closely, it seems to require that we understand what conditions
were like at the birth of the universe. That is why I spend a good deal
of time in The Fabric of the Cosmos discussing cosmology.
Q: Doesn't that make it hard to catch a train?
A: It does, but it doesn't make for a good excuse--at least not more
than once.
Q: You discuss some seemingly simple things that turn out to be quite
complex beneath the surface, like water sloshing around a spinning
bucket. Can you explain?
A: Well, physics is ultimately about explaining what we see and
experience. And some things that might seem mundane--like a bucket of
spinning water--actually tap into some deep mysteries. As I describe in
the book, Newton himself realized that a bucket of spinning water raised
surprisingly delicate questions about the nature of space--whether or
not space is a human abstraction or a real physical entity. It's a
question we are still pondering today.
Q: What's the most startling and unexpected revelation about the
universe that you have seen in your career as a physicist?
A: That's a tough question. Probably the growing belief, due largely
to string theory, that our universe may really have more than three
space dimensions. That possibility really blows my mind.
Q: You are one of the world's foremost experts on string theory. In
your new book you also talk about superstrings and branes, what exactly
is the difference?
A: Well, a superstring--like a very, very thin rubber band--is an
object with only one dimension, the dimension that extends along its own
length. Branes are simply objects with more dimensions. A two-brane has
two dimensions (like a disk or frisbee), a three-brane has three
dimensions (like a lump of clay), and the higher dimensional branes have
more dimensions (don't worry, I can't picture them either). The point is
that superstring theory was initially thought to only contain strings.
But in recent years, we've come to realize that these other, higher
dimensional objects--the branes--also have an important role in the
theory.
Q: What are black holes and what do they tell us about the nature of
universe?
A: Black holes are regions of the universe in which so much mass has
been crushed to such a small size that the pull of gravity is enormous.
So strong, in fact, that if you get too close it is impossible to
escape. Even a beam of light that gets too close will be sucked in,
explaining why black holes are black--light can't escape their powerful
gravitational grip. Black holes provide theoreticians with an important
theoretical laboratory to test ideas. Conditions within a black hole are
so extreme, that by analyzing aspects of black holes we see space and
time in an exotic environment, one that has shed important, and
sometimes perplexing, new light an their fundamental nature.
Q: You say that a particle on one side of the universe can influence
the action of a sister particle on the other side of the universe
instantaneously. Does this violate Einstein's statement that nothing can
travel faster than the speed of light?
A: It is a delicate question, but most physicists would say no. The
influence is such that no information can be sent from place to place at
faster than light speed, and many believe that's enough to avoid
conflict with Einstein's recognition that light sets a cosmic speed
limit. I am among those who take this point of view, but as I stress in
the book, this issue--due to remaining conundrums surrounding quantum
mechanics--is not fully settled.
Q: How close are we to really understanding the nature of the
universe?
A: Sometimes I think the final theory is just around the corner.
Sometimes I think such thoughts are naive. The bottom line is I don't
know, but what we're learning is so startling, that in a way it doesn't
matter. When or if we reach the deepest understanding, it will be a
major moment for our species. But until then, making progress at
unraveling the cosmos is its own reward.
Q: What do you think of the new Matrix movie?
A: Liked the first one better--made you think more about what
constitutes reality. Second one had only a bit of that, and although the
effects were great, I just felt exhausted by the end.
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